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... is growing 50$ a day. And I am doubling the income every ~60 days.
It could have been invested for Trash, which for I initially started Bux.to joosepP account for. Sad.
But I won't forget you when I start getting at least a few K per month.
Bux.to is not my only invested site, and so far I have been paid 600% value in return.

What is this shit?

It's a watch-ad-for-cents site. He has bots clicking ads to make money.

It's Joosep trying to make us jealous of some money that Trash didn't really need so he can get that warm smart arse feeling instead of just being nice and pleasant to us while we still like him.

For the record, the money means nothing. What meant something was the fact that Mark hasn't advertised for shit since '05 GOTY.

We're not even on a decent search standing for FREE RTS.

An online empire, huh? Well... it appears the emperor has no clothes:




Wow! A total of zero dollars paid out. Sad indeed.

(Notes to image viewers: Magnify them! I didn't do this to keep them pixel perfect copies. All characters except the period in the second shot have visible parts, and you can tell from their spacing where the obscured period is. Both dollar signs are clearly visible. Font is Verdana, bold, 8pt. Not all the zeroes are clearly visible, but Bux.to's minimum payout is $10, so do the math.)

While the numbers are correct, you are too confident wowbagger. I get my payments in a few weeks from bux.to.
But that doesn't matter. What did I say earlier?
For Trash investment, advertise. You can buy 10,000 views or 50,000 for 179$ or 875$, and these payments wont' reflect on the total amount paid. What the F indie? You really think I was here just to... it doesn't matter.

I've got a bridge for sale. You interested?



Then why did you try to hide the fact you haven't been paid yet? It matters cause all this money you're so "sad" you no longer want to invest in Trash is currently worthless.



"Look at me trying to flaunt my e-penis and make you guys regret you ever disagreed with me or didn't worship at my altar, obviously forcing me to leave the Trash community which I hold so highly I flushed all of its users' wiki contributions down the toilet, and instead revealing a serious lack of good judgement by falling for an obvious pyramid scheme."



Yeah... cause ads on bux.to are really valuable. I can't think of a more valuable demographic to reach than people who click ads for money. I'm sure advertisers are lining up to pitch their products on PTC sites and that these companies don't go belly-up in short order from lack of new members buying referrals and premium memberships.



Indie is about right.

Guys. Seriously.

Cut joosep some slack, he put in years of effort to trash you owe him a lot at least appreciate that.

Joosep you said you wont forget trash are you saying you will put us up for some ads still? If so I wanna say that would be cool even if it is mainly bot farmed ads I would personally appreciate an ad which gives us one new member.

Please dont take it to personally the way these guys are they resent the loss of their work. Understandable but thanks anyway for not forgetting us.

OMG that would go perfect with my motte! How much?!?!


And flamey is right, Joosep put alot of work into trash and although he did destroy everyones work he was I believe paying for the server which it was hosted on. It probally would of been better if he had gave some people some notice so they could get some of it...but it isn't a perfect world even with hindsight.

Okay, first of all, what was the point of saying

"It could have been invested in trash. Sad."

While this sort of thing is worth telling someone, the way you worded it was so unbelievably condescending and rude.

Don't think you'll ever get the money Joosep:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/17/su ... s-a-fraud/
http://buxtoscam.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/hello-world/
http://diggreponsitory.blogspot.com/200 ... cheme.html
http://projecto-buxto.blogspot.com/
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1239600.aspx
http://www.makingmoneyexperiment.com/20 ... alert.html
http://ptscam.com/

There's a few thousand of these webpages. Some people have been waiting over a year to get paid. When they make one of these pages, they get banned instantly -- yet they can't pay them instantly?

Most schemes involve paying out money at the start to hook some people, make them fanatical (tell others it works).

Here is a common scheme:
Invest $X with us and in 3 months time we will give you 2*$X !

OK, sound good right? Too good to be true. Heaps of people are skeptical. However, some people do invest money and in 3 months time.. they all get paid! Wow! They tell everyone, their friends, the news. People suddenly gain confidence.

How did the company pay the money? Here's how:
Month 0: $100 invested
Month 1: $200 invested
Month 2: $300 invested
Month 3: $400 <-- + Pay $200 to Month 0 investors, $800 left, $1800 to pay in future
Month 4: $700 <-- + Pay $400 to Month 1 investors, $1100 left, $2800 to pay in future
Month 5: $1000 <-- + Pay $600 to Month 2 investors, $1500 left, $4200 to pay in future

OK, they are successfully paying these people twice what they were given AND profiting at the same time, right? Wrong, they are losing money. The loss is getting higher and higher each time. Though, their capital is increasing with their debt.

What happens when people slow the money input? BANKRUPT. Though, at month 5 they could just 'stop paying' people. Then they can run away pocketing $1500. Sure, the first few guys made money but later on people invested even more money and LOST it.

Guess what is happening to bux.to? It's tanking. Check out the Alexa Rankings [ http://www.alexa.com ] for bux.to. Daily reach: 0.08 -> 0.05. If it goes backwards, they can't pay people anymore. In fact, these guys are smart. They aren't going to back out when they are on the decline. They already backed out when they hit their PEAK. Check out Alexa max range. Bux.to hit their peak in June of this year. Ever since then, it has been on steady decline. It went from 0.2 to 0.08 in a month.

You won't find any one real person on Google or even the bux.to forums who has been paid since July. Coincidence?


Bux.to started.. Bux.to first pays......... Bux.to peak.... Bux.to not paying, steady decline

Did you ever ask yourself where the money is coming from? Who would pay money for ads to be shown to someone who is paid to click them? This is very low quality, nil-conversion advertisement. You want to target people who are actually interested in your product. Ads on bux.to are worthless. Most of the clicks are performed by bots.

Thank you for those nice comments.
Hm, yes. Indeed Bux.to is already 3 days late with my payment.
Oh, just to keep you updated. I started receiving my payments from different sites.
Investments = 0
Profits = $$$

Well it seems it is as I described.

Other sites may be paying as they are still on an upward rise or perhaps they have real backers. Bux.to will never pay though as they are constantly falling (graph I showed).

If you want some sure bets, check alexa graphs for the PTC site. If it is increasing and hasn't peaked yet, they may pay out (so that you spread word about them). If they have already peaked, you have no chance of receiving money. Also try to check for financial backers. Dodgy ads that have no incentive and no method of captivating you = no money.